Monday, 24 October 2016

[PANN] 161023 As expected, from Jungkook mom

My baby... my ba... this is killing me too much...!!

What is Jeon Jungkook to Park Jimin?

My baby

Original post here
Response +34 -1

1. Jimin, you are my baby too +21 -0

2. here's another one ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ how Jungkook thinks about Jimin  +7 -0
What is Park Jimin to Jeon Jungkook?

smol bean! 

3. ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋbut ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋJungkook ㅋㅋㅋ he thinks Jimin as manggaetteuk and a smol bean which makes it funnier ㅋㅋㅋ +4 -0

4. omg... (shakes)... ahhhhhhh +3 -0

5. heol Eppi, you should have warned us in the title (can cause heart attack)!!! I could have ended up at the hospital at this late hour ㅠㅅㅠ +3 -0

[PANN] 161023 It looks like Jimin drinks well...

[Instiz] 161022 Boy idols who look like they got close in a very short time. gif

It's Shinee Taemin and BTS Jimin

[Misc] 161024 Fansite's feedback +) they posted another one!

Original letter is here
Take out with full credits!

Before we begin the letter, we would like to apologize to the artists and their fandoms who were mentioned in the posts and to ARMYs who were targeted without even knowing the reason.

On 23rd October around 11PM, screenshots of some posts and comments which were posted in the "FREE Board" (hereinafter "Free Room") of BTSdotcom (board where only members who go through the process of fan verification have the access to) were uploaded on various community sites.

The relevant screenshots showed criticizing remarks directed to other artists and not BTS, despite them not mentioning the artists' names. After reviewing, we confirmed that these posts were actually posted in the Free Room. We offer a sincere apology to many people who were upset by these screenshots that reached outside because we didn't take an action fast enough.

Admins have forbidden members from mentioning other artists and fandoms regardless by their names or indirectly by giving hints if they are not directly involved with BTS through our Basic Rules. Furthermore, even if they are directly involved with BTS, we strictly manage the board. However, due to managing the site, organizing group order, mass streaming, we couldn't take any immediate action and due to this reason we couldn't be tough on every post and every comment.  We feel deeply responsible. We apologize from the bottom of our hearts.

Also, during the early days of opening the site, the verifying process wasn't difficult and we were able to come up with the current procedure after making many changes. For this reason, not all members went through the current verification process. This created the difference between members but we managed the site without realizing this. We're terribly sorry and we will come up with a solution for this issue as well.

Lastly, as a site, we have taken the following actions to fulfill our responsibility.

1) We have temporarily closed the board (Free Room) that caused this issue.
2) We will get rid of the members who wrote these posts in the following  ways.
3) We are currently investigating to find the members who sympathized with these posts by commenting on them and we will get rid of them equally.

[Relevant members]
"They use everything to slander them (BTS) but they don't mention our boys' talent or pre debut past"
- (ID and nickname are mentioned in the original post)
"there are many rumors about blocking Korean celebrities in China", "I think the trace left by us as the first small company boy idol is really amazing", "We're always criticized about our general popularity", "ah the responses from namcho are hilarious" (namcho - community sites with more male users than female users), "honestly they didn't even start in a small company, it was a f***ing small company so don't you think this is really huge...?", "no seriously...they're the bosses of f***ing small companies but I can't smell the vibe of a f***ing small company" etc
- (ID and nickname mentioned in the original post)
"other fandoms are planning on mass streaming after reading our posts"
- (" " ")
"Honestly, I think they care too much about our boys." (currently it's been edited)
- (" " ")
"Seriously why are they so scared? ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ"
- (" " ")

[Our action]
- Reveal their nickname
- The relevant members will not be able to log in for an  indefinite period of time 

We will try to improve the site to stop similar things from happening in the future and do our best to create clean fansite culture by monitoring continuously.
We are terribly sorry to everyone who felt uncomfortable due to this problem and we truly apologize for causing a problem as a fan community site that has our group's name as our title.

Reading the following posts will help you understand
- here
- here

+) They posted another one

Original post here
Take out with full credits!

We will answer the missing questions.
We apologize for writing another letter. We forgot to mention the following points when we were writing our letter of apology.

1. Regulation Plan, we believe we need to be clear.
: We will take following actions to improve the site. We are still discussing this matter and we will add more details if we think they are necessary.

- Re-verify existing members with the updated level up process
- Delete "Chat" category under Free Room where post users posted freely
- Strengthen punishment for users who write posts that violate our Basic Rules. ("Return" will be abolished"
- Abolish anonymity
- Systematize the monitoring by admins
(Board Moderators used to monitor their boards whenever they were free. Now we will assign time and territory to each moderator to manage the comments and posts in more systematic way.)

2. Are you only going to block the posters and comments who caused this issue from your site? We believe we should get at least a letter of apology from them.
: BTSdotcom does not require any verification process when members sign up and it's an anonymous site so even admins have no way of contacting them personally. We were not sure if we could get a letter of apology from these members so we decided to exclude it from our letter of apology.  However, we will do our best to find these members and try to get a letter of apology.
And not allowing them to log in their account is equal to banning them. That is the maximum action we can take as a site and we are very sorry for this too. We are discussing to find a better solution.

3. When did those 5 people join the site? You didn't tell us what sort of verification procedure they went through and if you just tell us that it has changed now, I'm worried that this is going to make others think that you're trying to cloud the issue. And this is actually creating many arguments already.
: Before we explain you the procedure, we want to bow our heads and extend our apology for not explaining it in detail and for posting something that can cause issues. 
(nicknames mentioned in the original post) 4 of these members registered on June 1st, the day we opened the site temporarily and they filled in their level up forms too so they were upgraded on the day of the opening and member (mentioned in the original post) registered on July 7th and filled her/his level up on the same day as was upgraded.

The following was the verification requirement at first (opened temporarily on June 1st)

A, B, C all of them had to be met

A (compulsory)
HYYH Young Forever album
*Day/Night 1 of the 2

B (compulsory)
Download "FIRE" individually from Korean music site

C (3 out of ㄱ~ㅅ have to be submitted)
ㄱ Download "FIRE" individual/FLAC from Korean sites other than Melon
ㄴ Stream "FIRE" over 1000 times
ㄷ Purchase at least 2 BTS albums (excluding HYYH Young Forever)
ㄹ Must be higher than 정회원 on official cafe
ㅁ Own at least 3 official goods (excluding ARMY BOMB, ARMY ZIP)
ㅂ Own more than 1 concert/fan meet/ exhibition ticket
ㅅ Own more than 1 BTS DVD

The following is the current requirement
(proof of 1 out from A~E)
A Stream "FIRE" over 10,000 times + 2 BTS albums + download "Blood Sweat & Tears"
B Stream "FIRE" over 7,000 times + 4 BTS albums + download "Blood Sweat & Tears"
C Stream "FIRE" over 5,000 times + 4 BTS albums + download "Blood Sweat & Tears", "FIRE"
D Stream "FIRE" over 3,000 times + 6 BTS albums + download "Blood Sweat & Tears", "FIRE"
E 6 BTS albums + download all tracks of "WINGS", "FIRE"

* We only accept Melon because that's the only site we can count our streaming
* You must own 1 type of WINGS in the albums
* Even if you own 2 versions of the same album, they will be counted as 1
* We will only accept individual songs/FLAC downloads from Melon.

4. Please explain to us about comments being tampered. If you don't explain to us in detail as to how far these posts are true, people will think we're trying to cloud the issue and it will affect the sincerity of your feedback.
: We are sorry for creating confusion with just 2 images and a short letter. The comments were edited- comments from other posts were added to the posts, the comments weren't edited and the posts were all written inside BTSdotcom. We acknowledge the problems in the mentioned posts and we would like to apologize again for not moderating the posts and comments properly. We wanted to let you know that these posts were edited before spreading them and we apologize for not explaining the situation to you in detail.

We offer a sincere apology for causing this issue.
We will not forget your comments and we'll keep them in our hearts to show you our improvement. 

[PANN] 161023 They call them the 3 selca high school girls ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

Taesook, Namsook, Jungsook ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

(T/N: most Korean names that end with -suk -sook belong to girls)

Original post here
Response +45 -0

1. Why does Namjoon look so shy? ㅋㅋㅋㅋ seriously they're too cute 

2. Look at Namjoon, he looks so modestㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

3. ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ큐ㅠㅠ Namjoon smiling while covering his mouth is so cute... girlish, girlish... 

4. Namjoon laughing with his mouth covered is the killing pointㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

5. omg~ it looks like Namsook is a shy girl~ ^^ +5 -0

6. I thought Namjoon was a girl ㅋㅋㅋ cute 

[PANN] 161023 BTS hub home gets caught for slandering other singers indirectly

ARMYs on PANN already posted regarding this [x]

These screencaptures are from BTS hub home "Free Room" and this Free Room can be only accessed by fans who went through the verification process of proof shots of many albums and streaming. This is much more shocking because this happened in a place where only genuine fans stay active. Furthermore, the hub home clearly mentioned in their rules that members can't talk about other artists directly (by names) or indirectly (hints that will make you guess who they are). I would like to know why the members are breaking this rule to slander other artists and fandoms.

[PANN] 161024 Hello. This is a post from BTS Fantalk board

Hello. I'm ARMY from BTS fantalk board.

First of all, this happened on another site but as ARMY, I would like to express my deep regrets and I also feel responsible. I'm writing this post to all the fandoms who were mentioned. (in the mentioned site)

The site BTSdotcom which is mentioned in the proof pictures is a fanpage that was built last June, aiming to become the "hub home" so this site is not managed by the artist's company.

(T/N: Hub home = main community site for the fandom. they organize group orders or anything that represents the fandom.)

Furthermore, we have emailed and sent tweets to admins of BTSdotcom asking for feedback.  We are planning to write another post as soon as we receive their feedback about the truth behind  relevant posts and if these posts are still available on the site. 

We request feedback regarding the hub home related incident

Hello. I would like to notify you that the posts which slandered other artists and belittled medium and small entertainment companies are causing  controversy on other community sites. It's mentioned in the site rules that members can't talk about things that draw an analogy about other singers but some of the members still slandered other artists by addressing them indirectly, belittled the quality and general popularity of medium-small companies, and these posts are reasons behind this controversy. We would like to get a feedback from BTSdotcom and from the ARMYs who are members of the site. Moreover, I hope you will respond to this issue soon because, in order to become a member of your hub home, ARMYs had to go through an official verification process to be a part of the site...

Please make a feedback soon.

I'm sorry to be sending such email to the staffs of BTSdotcom who are always hardworking. I'm writing this emails because there were posts in the FREE section of the site that slandered other artists and these posts were brought up in other community sites causing disputes and making other fandoms disappointed in ARMYs. I hope you give a feedback soon. 


Please make a feedback regarding this issue. Please I'm asking you. This is a serious problem.

Please give a fast feedback

Hello, currently posts from BTSdotcom are creating a dispute. 
I ask you for feedback.
Please let us know if these posts were written on BTSdotcom or not.
If it's true that these posts were posted on your site, please do make a feedback soon telling us how you handled this problem.
This issue is growing bigger and bigger.
I believe that BTSdotcom's decision to make a fast feedback or not will make a huge difference to this situation.
Currently, we are waiting for your feedback so please check your mail.

I'm requesting for feedback regarding mentioning other artists on BTSdotcom

I'm requesting for feedback regarding mentioning other artists on BTSdotcom

I'm not a member of BTSdotcom so I'm not sure but I do know that currently these posts have been returned. I ask you to make a feedback for the controversy that arose in BTSdotcom. I'm worried that this issue caused by some ARMYs or Attention Seekers might affect BTS who are actively promoting right now and other ARMYS as well. Please give a feedback soon.

Please make a feedback. (Please do read this)


Please read this post carefully after following the link. We are very confused too after hearing about this suddenly. In the link, it says that these posts are originally from BTSdotcom (BTS hub home). Please check if the person who wrote that post is ARMY or an Attention Seeker and I hope you make a feedback. Fans on Nate PANN Fantalk are earnestly waiting for your feedback. I hope you make a feedback soon after checking out this problem.

Thank you.

Original post here
Response +334 -94

1. We're asking them for feedback so please be patient. Even Fantalk board is trying to understand what's going on. +199 -19

2. As an ARMY, I deeply regret and feel responsible about this issue and I will try to make get a feedback very soon. +191 -22

3. Fans from other fandoms, please wait a moment. We will do our best to take care of this. +164 -20

4. Seriously ARMYs are making feedbacks day and night... I hope you guys bring good result!! I understand. Stay strong ㅎㅎ +31 -21

5. ah.. I was watching BTS fantalk board earlier (I was quite annoyed...sorry) and I could tell that they were confused by the posts too and they kept warning each other not to make any solo move until they are certain about the issue because they had made mistakes before... There are many immature fans but generally the ARMYs on PANN are always ready to solve problems so I think we should wait without pushing them. +83 -2

6. I think what they're doing right now is right. Hub home wasn't created by Fantalk members. So I'm sure they (fantalk eppis) wouldn't have known this situation until they saw the post on Enter Talk and it looks like they're understanding the situation now so it's not really their fault... I see you guys trying to tear the fantalk ARMYs.. The ones who made the hub home should be blamed. I can prove I'm from another fandom +78 -7

7. Yeah. I was honestly really pissed off after reading the earlier post but all fandoms have immature fans so I think it's right for us to wait. Honestly, we did fight a lot with BTS fandom but they also had hard times and they have nice fans too who tried to explain their story so let's wait without trying to tear each other!! Let's not turn into Attention Seekers.. I hope they release a feedback without ignoring. +67 -3

[Instiz] 161022 High school student who walks around wearing Rolex in school uniform.jpg